the availability of medicare begins at 65. if you were to increase it to 67, about $250 billion in savings. also, if you look at medicare cost sharing. this is from the provider. if you go back to the providers to provide medicare and say to them, we need you to come around and provide, pony up a little bit of the money, you can save $350 billion, and also social security. right now a cost of living increase, built into social security, and a lot of economists say that's way out of reach from where we actually are seeing the increases in cost of living. if you were to reduce that a bit you could save $232 billion. >> very important information. the savings over ten years? >> all over ten years. >> all right. >> all over ten years. remember what they're looking for, what businesses would like to hear what jamie diamond as jpmorgan would like to hear, david cote at honeywell would like to hear what the fix the debt committee and simpson bo s simpson-bowles, $4 trillion over the next ten year. >>> and prince william's wife cather